you saw marco rubio explain, which is pretty far down the road. looks a lot like what president bush put forward four years ago, yes, they're willing to do it but they're not willing to give the president everything he wants because i think they believe the rule still matters in this country and that we have to respect those who did it the right way, who waited in line and did -- and made sacrifices and that they shouldn't be treated the same as people who broke the law and came here and get the same -- >> i want to get another subject in. we saw this remarkable -- i guess we call it a confession from lance armstrong this week. 2 1/2 hours with oprah winfrey. here's a part of it. >> did it feel wrong? >> no. scary. >> did you feel bad about it? >> no. even scarier. >> did you feel in any way that you were cheating? >> no. the scariest. >> not a lot of contrition there. >> the rewards of athletic excellence in this country are astonishingly high and, therefore, the temptation to cheat is astonishingly high, and we see it throughout -- we've seen it